Monday, August 3, 2009

"A couple of car-related items: Carbon Foot Prints of Hybrids and Old Cluckers like mine....

Conglomerate Blog: Business, Law, Economics & Society:\

First, about hybrid cars . . . .
Christine and Gordon's recent hybrid car postings (Highlander for Christine; Prius for Gordon) got me thinking. You see, my family lives in a Prius-rich environment. Literally about a third of our friends have at least one Prius in the family, and one family has two--and they are Prius proselytizers as well. We, on other hand, drive a couple of relatively old, relatively guzzly cars. The efficient one is a 12-year-old Volvo, which gets about 15 mpg in city driving. The other is a 10-year-old Lexus SUV (the big one), which gets about 10 mpg (with a tailwind). When I get self-conscious about our old guzzlers, my defense mechanisms cause me to speculate about whether buying a new hybrid is as green as generally believed. Specifically, the manufacture of a new car--even a really fuel-efficient one--must leave a pretty big carbon footprint, right? All that steel and shipping! Is it possible we'd be better off just keeping our old cars forever and repairing them as needed, as they do in Cuba?

Turns out, building a new Prius requires 113 million BTUs of energy. So compared to an existing car, in carbon footprint terms, a new Prius has already consumed 1,000 gallons of gasoline before it rolls off the showroom floor!

Instead of a new Prius, buy: a 1998 Toyota Tercel, which gets about 35 mpg. You'd have to drive the Prius 100,000 miles before you broke even with the old Tercel. or a 1994 Geo Metro XFi, which gets the same 46 mpg as the new Prius, but without the carbon overhead. In terms of carbon footprint, the Prius will never catch up. Of course, odds are that you won't be getting that new-car smell. As one analyst concludes, 'You might feel better driving a hybrid, but you won't necessarily be greener.'"

Second, about old cars . . . .
This week’s question from Tom Wilson…

OK, I realize a car’s major carbon footprint is the actual gas that it uses. What is the carbon footprint to just build a new car before it uses any gas?

Am I shrinking my footprint by not buying a new car? The last new car I bought was a four cylinder, five speed manual transmission, four door sedan purchased in August of 1987. It still averages 22-24 mpg and I drive it 5-6 thousand miles per year. Equivalent new cars average 27-30 mpg.

Should I stick with my plan? Being car payment free since 1992 is enjoyable.

FD: you see it is not an evironmental program. It is simply a stimulus program to move car inventory and start the wheels of car manufacturing again... putting more people back to work.



Friday, July 31, 2009 12:34 PDT
http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/2009/07/31/cash_for_clunkers/index.html
Cash for Clunkers: The successful failure
So Cash for Clunkers, the scheme by which the Obama administration hoped to both stimulate auto sales and get fuel-inefficient vehicles off the road, has turned out to be hugely popular, burning through its initial funding of one billion in just a week. On Friday morning the House of Representatives hurriedly authorized another two billion, grabbed from stimulus funds earmarked for the Energy Department. The Senate will decide on the additional funds next week.

It's a fascinating little story, because both the left and the right are claiming the program to be a failure, while at the same time, on at least one metric, it is an obvious success. As a flat out stimulus measure aimed directly at one of the U.S.'s most ailing industries, Cash for Clunkers might end up being the most effective government intervention masterminded by the Obama administration so far. Auto sales in July are almost guaranteed to hit a high for all of 2009.

President Obama took immediate credit on Friday:

Not more than a few weeks ago, there were skeptics who weren't sure that this "Cash for Clunkers" program would work. But I'm happy to report that it has succeeded well beyond our expectations and all expectations, and we're already seeing a dramatic increase in showroom traffic at local car dealers.

Republicans, unsurprisingly, are upset. Arizona representative Jeff Flake complained that the government is picking "winners." Well, sorry Jeff, but your party lost the election, Michigan has 15.2 percent unemployment and the U.S. government has invested billions in Chrysler and GM. If you are striving, a la Keynes, to juice demand by getting consumers to open up their wallets, why not encourage them to spend on products that will help out the nation's most depressed region, thus dovetailing with other government support of the auto industry? That just seems smart.

Environmentalists are unhappy, however, because the original guidelines for the program were so watered down that it's all too possible to buy a new car that has only marginal fuel economy improvements over the old clunker. People are buying new Ford trucks to replace their old ones, instead of Priuses in exchange for Hummers. Or so we hear from anecdotal reports -- we don't have good data yet on the breakdown of the new purchases, which has led to some Senators declaring that they won't vote to authorize funding unless the environmental rules are tightened, or there is evidence that the program is working as planned.

As Senator Claire McCaskill, D-Mo. tweeted this morning:

Want to study & read what House passed yesterday.We'll not consider in Senate till next week.Also want details of how program is working.C4C

The most hilarious aspect of this are right-wing attempts to depict Cash for Clunkers as an unmitigated failure that should be a case lesson in why we don't want the government running health care. Instapundit is exhibit A: Glenn Reynolds cherrypicks a few paragraphs detailing some technical problems implementing the program from a Minneapolis-St. Paul StarTribune article that mostly documents how popular Cash for Clunkers is, in the service of a clumsy partisan attack.

"Producers can't catch a break under this Administration," concludes Reynolds, in a mind-boggling display of blind obstinacy. The problems "producers" -- in this case, car dealerships -- are having are a direct result of the success of the program. There's so much demand, that government is having a hard time processing reimburses of the $4500 credit that goes towards the purchase of a new car. The "producers" are also worried that because demand has already sucked down the initial $1 billion of funding provided, they might be left holding the bag for cars that consumers have already bought, if the program closes down abruptly.

Congress is not going to let that happen. Even if Cash for Clunkers is providing only marginal environmental benefits, it is clearly exerting a stimulative effect on the economy, automakers, and, eventually, recession-hammered Midwestern states. That's a winning trifecta for the Obama administration. I would be shocked if the Senate doesn't fall into line with the House.

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